Barty 6:43 Tue Nov 26
How much do you think a mid table prem club has to spend to have a chance of finishing in the top 4?
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I´m having this discussion with someone.
I would say about 100 million pounds 4 years in a row minimum with some good recruitment and manager.
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Pagey
6:46 Tue Nov 26
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I think people get carried away by money alone. If it’s wasted then it means nothing.
Spend the money right and you can achieve anything, as Leicester have shown over the last 5 years. You don’t have to spend a fortune.
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Barty
6:49 Tue Nov 26
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Exactly Pagey, Leicester are a very well run club
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stepney hammer
6:51 Tue Nov 26
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Fulham spent 100m last season just to get relegated.
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JayeMPee
6:51 Tue Nov 26
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With decent management not necessarily a lot. Currently both Leicester and Sheffield United are doing very well.
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Rossal
6:57 Tue Nov 26
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Its not about how much you spend its about who you spend it on and the managers and coaches getting the best out of a squad
We've spent shit loads and our best player is a kid from the academy. 2nd and 3rd probably Fab and Antonio who cost not alot
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Sniper
7:02 Tue Nov 26
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The transfer market and player valuations make so little sense these days that it’s not about how much you spend but who you buy and how you keep the squad moving forward.
Leicester sold maguire and a reserve centre back who barely got a look in last season is now his even more impressive replacement. Their defence looks far better than the one maguire moves to for £80m
The important Thing is identifying what your squad needs and finding the right players to fill the spaces. That’s what we quite literally haven’t done at all for as long as I can remember, or at least as long as gold and Sullivan have been here
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FruityBoots.
7:07 Tue Nov 26
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Unfortunately the recent generations of FIFA20 gamers, YouTubers, followers on social media click bait pages, Talksport and a SkySports News lead everyone into the mentality that throwing hundreds of millions into transfers will equal success, investment is needed of course but shouldn’t need to always be in huge transfers.
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Mike Oxsaw
7:08 Tue Nov 26
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The NHS is a good example here; however much money is thrown at it, it still always falls short of expectations.
Adequate - not excessive - funding plus professional (PROFESSIONAL) management at all managerial/director levels will offer the platform for success.
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the coming of gary
7:09 Tue Nov 26
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Bournemouth are mid table without spending much. And their ground holds less than Newport or Carlisle .
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stewie griffin
7:10 Tue Nov 26
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As well as Leicester, The cunts in north London did it on a negative spend
As others have said, its possible to achieve if you have a well run club with people who know what they're doing. So we have no chance, money or no money
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Texas Iron
7:13 Tue Nov 26
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200million... 4-6 players... Need depth in squad...plus a few top quality key players...(Striker...MF)... But no guarantees... Depends on the skill of the person buying the players
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New Jersey
7:27 Tue Nov 26
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Leicester, Yids and Burnley are all extremely well run clubs, who in relative terms haven't spent a fortune. They have Boards who have a vision of where they want to be and how to achieve this, whilst we have a bunch of asset strippers in charge of us who rent a running track. Burnley's current success was due to their Board and the policies they pursued, which started long before Dyche was appointed, although he has probably accelerated their success.
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Sniper
7:34 Tue Nov 26
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Spurs are both an example of how to do it and then how not to
They successfully managed to get into the top four, largely off the back of the money they invested when they sold Kane and the likes of Eriksen and son coming good at the same time as kane, but then just kept the same squad for 3 years and messed it up
As fergie said you have to reinvent the squad every three seasons with new faces, if you stand still everyone goes past you
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Takashi Miike
7:36 Tue Nov 26
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the transfer budget is irrelevant if you have a clown as the manager, getting that right is more important
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Takashi Miike
7:36 Tue Nov 26
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.......everton are a good example of this
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Sir Alf
7:50 Tue Nov 26
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Someone needs to drag out those net spend tables. Leicester are a good example as are Tottenham.
Net spend is key and smart spending too. Spending 100 million on players for 4 or 5 years is needed though and spent well but also selling players, possibly ones that are deemed good but you have another in the same position or youngster coming through. Buying players that are younger in the first place makes this more of a possibility.
Selling players over 28/29 or over and aligning contracts to end around that 28 year old mark all helps with getting the best money for a player that is likely to decline in the course of the next 3 or so years.
I think that is the Spurs approach in terms of contracts?
Anyway, it will take an initial investment of capital or a few years to get the squad younger and able to start trading. But you still got to get your scouting right, get the type of player you need hence identify what the squad and team weaknesses are and upgrade the players for those positions,
In 60 years I have suffered as a fan, West Ham have never done anything of this nature, nothing longer term in nature. Everything "knee jerk" , one year thinking. We get a half decent season , just the one and whoever is in charge sees it as the sign to throttle back on spending or spend on budget priced players and freebies ( yes Sullivan thats you).
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Lato
8:25 Tue Nov 26
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IMO this Leicester side looks a better one than the one that won the Premier League in 2016. I am not sure how much they have spent since then, but I would guess it is less than us. In Brendan Rogers they have one of the best young Managers in Europe....look out Liverpool!
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Pagey
9:15 Tue Nov 26
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At the moment Leicester are doing everything that we aspire to do, but can’t. Young, talented players with a will to succeed and a hunger to learn and improve. A great work ethic and pace and skill in abundance.
The only concern they have right now is how to replace Vardy in a couple of years time as he’s so important to what they do. Vardy, who cost them £1m!
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gph
9:20 Tue Nov 26
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£33 trillion under people who think crystal panthers a good buy.
Or £100-200 million under first class stewardship.
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13 Brentford Rd
9:02 Wed Nov 27
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As Leicester have shown. You don't need to throw stupid money at it if you have owners with real ambition who know what they are doing.
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